02-06-2011, 11:13 AM
Yes john, So that glass house, how are all the broken broken windows treating you? I know you're no diving saint anymore then I. You can throw any stones you want, I don't mind them. I have at least one story about bad judgment from most of the divers I know. I don't know why more of us don't die. I can assume a combination of skill and better judgment get most of us out of trouble and prevents us from repeating it.
I understand this shouldn't have happened but it did. Most of the shacks were empty when we set up. I don't really see it being that big an issue, but we'll mind the gap better. If the threat about fishing line is so great that it must be avoided none of us should dive anyplace. See Rons post about his fishing line finds. I've cut line in Crosby, it's an easy dive skill.
Seeing the real story is they don't respect the dive flag and you guys get to put a badge on yours you may get better compliance then us chasing off territorial fishermen. I don't think I would have put it up the hole but then I wasn't the diver. (I actually think Joe was tending and we told them we were in the area) It's always easy for people to judge, I've done it. Its real easy to be hypocrites when we've all bent or broken a dive rule. I think most of the stories I know about divers regal with bent rules. I'm not endorsing this but live with the fact that at times, we all speed or break 'laws'. Our judgment and dive protocols are all sound. They may not be fore everyone but we like then and I've got no problem calling a dive because I don't like how it's going. I bailed on an ice dive this year within a few minutes because I didn't feel right about it. Everyone respects the others right to call it off.
Lastly and maybe a bit off topic, I was disappointed with myself this summer when I had my OOA but not so proud that I couldn't share for other to learn. Maybe like your OOA john. Keeping my OOA secret would have been the real danger. It would indicated dangerous pride. It's not that we don't make mistakes, it's not that we should have known better, it's that we dealt with it. Anyone that knows me knows my story that although I like buddies I don't trust they will be there for me. My OOA, I was alone, just as I expected. I had lost terry in the bad vis. I didn't judge my air well and jumped a tank that was too low for the job but my original judgment to always have a pony to go to paid and my changeover was flawless, as I had practiced. One skill offsetting the other. We have redundant gear because it can fail. To failure is human and Terry and I have redundant skills if judgment fails on occasion. I assume all you divers have relied on back up skills because something avoidable happened.
I understand this shouldn't have happened but it did. Most of the shacks were empty when we set up. I don't really see it being that big an issue, but we'll mind the gap better. If the threat about fishing line is so great that it must be avoided none of us should dive anyplace. See Rons post about his fishing line finds. I've cut line in Crosby, it's an easy dive skill.
Seeing the real story is they don't respect the dive flag and you guys get to put a badge on yours you may get better compliance then us chasing off territorial fishermen. I don't think I would have put it up the hole but then I wasn't the diver. (I actually think Joe was tending and we told them we were in the area) It's always easy for people to judge, I've done it. Its real easy to be hypocrites when we've all bent or broken a dive rule. I think most of the stories I know about divers regal with bent rules. I'm not endorsing this but live with the fact that at times, we all speed or break 'laws'. Our judgment and dive protocols are all sound. They may not be fore everyone but we like then and I've got no problem calling a dive because I don't like how it's going. I bailed on an ice dive this year within a few minutes because I didn't feel right about it. Everyone respects the others right to call it off.
Lastly and maybe a bit off topic, I was disappointed with myself this summer when I had my OOA but not so proud that I couldn't share for other to learn. Maybe like your OOA john. Keeping my OOA secret would have been the real danger. It would indicated dangerous pride. It's not that we don't make mistakes, it's not that we should have known better, it's that we dealt with it. Anyone that knows me knows my story that although I like buddies I don't trust they will be there for me. My OOA, I was alone, just as I expected. I had lost terry in the bad vis. I didn't judge my air well and jumped a tank that was too low for the job but my original judgment to always have a pony to go to paid and my changeover was flawless, as I had practiced. One skill offsetting the other. We have redundant gear because it can fail. To failure is human and Terry and I have redundant skills if judgment fails on occasion. I assume all you divers have relied on back up skills because something avoidable happened.
and chose a different spot to dive! They were close enough to score 1 though ;D. they then dove the speedboat from a tip from a fisherman :
. we scoured that area last month looking for the plane. when I dug out the topper section, there was what appeared to be a strut attached. I thought at first that I found a wing from the mustang. My drysuit is still a semi dry so I only got it one 60 min dive in today.
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