TRINITY'S 1st Annual 2010/2011 Icing/ Anchoring Challenge

[tullibee]

my latest ice dive was Apr 13th one year  - but I had to go toward Detroit Lakes to do it!
looking forward to getting a dive or two in this year - didn't manage to log anything last year!

[Terry]

                  Ending date will be very contingent upon early spring weather. Here in the Cities the end of March will typically be pretty close. Young Joe, Dave Torry and I hit the NW corner of Harriet on a sunny 51 degree day March 27th last season, as our final dip. "Open water" that day varied from 2-3' to 20' out from shore, the ice was now black and pourous. You could stand on the ice but it would slowly submerge if you stood in one spot too long. We could break this ice (while in the water) up to about 4" thick, but after that it was sound enough to crawl out upon. The police showed up, curious as to what we were doing, we were just stretching out our lines to see how sound the ice was, 400' out. At 400' the ice was sound enough to not submerge under a standing weight of 150 pounds. Interesting how ice forms from the shoreline out in the late fall and dissapears from the shoreline out in the early spring. I think as you headed north you could follow the DNRs changing dates to remove fish houses (with a month added) to give you the end of icing season, plus or minus based on that years weather.
                    As I seem to recall from the first ice dive this season that Steve and I did in Prior Lake, the military's formula for supporting weight on ice,,,,the square root of the tonnage times 4 equals the thickness of clear ice needed. Steve and I each weigh 150 pounds, as tons .075 ton/each, as square root .273861 times 4 equals 1.095 inches, we could walk on the ice but it would crack with every step. I remember the ice being 1 1/4" to 1 1/2" thick maybe up to 2" (the pics are shown early in the challenge here, with Steve holding a piece edgewise) Once you put gear on (adding 75 to 100 pounds) the ice wouldn't support us, and we broke thru. This formula sounds exceedingly conservative, in that my 3/4 Silverado would only require 6.45 inches, YIKES!, a 36 ton (thats 90% fully loaded) 18wheeler requires 24" just over what we have right now,,, wouldn't want to feel, that ice crack. Then again its not like the military is paying for their own losses.
                     As the icing season/ 1st challenge, "melts away" it it will be interesting to see a few things,,,,, like the total number of anchors found, (my guess 165) how late a icing dive we can do, (my guess 4-3-11) how many reads this thing actually gets, (my guess 10,500,, by 4-3-11), that amazes me that were over 8700 already, if the great anchor finder John (Scubbie) Oliver can be stopped, (my guess, No  :'(  ) if my buddy Steve can put Nate behind him, my guess, Yes! ,,,,, hopefully anyway, so we dont have to eat crow all summer.
                     I have enjoyed the run here, I thank you all!      TRINITY
                     

[arcFlash]

This year we have 10 inches less ice. We were cutting 30-33 inches last year and we have 22 now. MN DNR reported ice out (No ice at all) between 4-3 and 4-5 for central MN last year. You will not see an ice dive past mid march. I'll say March 20 and it's back to OW again.

[Shooter]

I am all for picking a date when this madness can end. The competition is starting to affect my chi, and soften the zen like experience. It has been fun.  8) it will also eliminate any controversy  :'( or contestents pushing themselves to unsafe limits  ??? for a shot at the title. I too have spent more time under the ice than any other year, but I know as of right now my only shot at that title will be first place loser. Balancing work, family life, and diving almost every available weekend has been exhausting at times. I did check with my doctor though, and he advised me that getting off my ass was right for me! My Chuck Norris pants are starting to lose their snap though  :-[.

Terry are you implying that I am a person that likes to beat a dead window sash  :-X, I mean horse?  ???  ;D ;D

[Terry]

I am all for picking a date when this madness can end. The competition is starting to affect my chi, and soften the zen like experience. It has been fun.  8) it will also eliminate any controversy  :'( or contestents pushing themselves to unsafe limits  ??? for a shot at the title. I too have spent more time under the ice than any other year, but I know as of right now my only shot at that title will be first place loser. Balancing work, family life, and diving almost every available weekend has been exhausting at times. I did check with my doctor though, and he advised me that getting off my ass was right for me! My Chuck Norris pants are starting to lose their snap though  :-[.

Terry are you implying that I am a person that likes to beat a dead window sash  :-X, I mean horse?  ???  ;D ;D
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                              Steve, I think were close to breaking Nate, he's loosing his chi, it wont be long now. Time to turn up the pressure!

[DetectorGuy]

I don't know much about Chi, Zen, Karma, or even Toyota for that matter, but I think its time we engage the Kaizen principles to our producivity when it comes to flopping anchors on the ice.  ;D

[Shooter]

                               Steve, I think were close to breaking Nate, he's loosing his chi, it wont be long now. Time to turn up the pressure!
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"No quarter asked, none given"  >

I am feeling the pressure now & Zen. It will only take one under ice meditation to get it all back. After that last tug of war, it did cause me to question things.  I have to admit however it only takes one shot across the bow from you to get me fired up and ready  for battle. 
You can even use your new lift bag to no avail, team Isanti will prevail.

PS ;D ;D I had your best interest in mind  ;D ;D

[Shooter]

A for effort John. We tried to help, but it just goes to show that "you can't teach an old dog new tricks"  >. enough of this warm fuzzy crap, time to drop the olive branch and grab the hickory switches and beat the old dog into submission!  >

[Terry]

A for effort John. We tried to help, but it just goes to show that "you can't teach an old dog new tricks"  >. enough of this warm fuzzy crap, time to drop the olive branch and grab the hickory switches and beat the old dog into submission!  >
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                        Heres how afraid Steve and I are of team Insanity and your HICKORY (olive branch) SWITCH! >

[Shooter]

A for effort John. We tried to help, but it just goes to show that "you can't teach an old dog new tricks"  >. enough of this warm fuzzy crap, time to drop the olive branch and grab the hickory switches and beat the old dog into submission!  >
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                        Heres how afraid Steve and I are of team Insanity and your HICKORY (olive branch) SWITCH! >
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How about some new tricks? We've seen that one many times before....